McPig ([info]saorren) wrote,
@ 2007-10-24 07:18:00
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"Japan Asks America to Stop Illegal Net Releases of Anime" from ANN
Japan Asks America to Stop Illegal Net Releases of Anime

The Japanese government issued a formal statement of requests to the government of the United States on regulatory reform and market competition policy on October 18, and included a request for the United States to help stop the unauthorized reproduction and distribution of Japanese animation online. Specifically, the formal statement mentions the spread of Japanese animation and other materials on video-sharing sites and peer-to-peer file-sharing networks.

According to Japan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the distribution of copyrighted materials in the United States has increasingly damaged the creative industries of Japan. Despite frequent requests to remove unauthorized material from sites with user-submitted videos, the ministry says the fundamental problem remains unresolved for the foreseeable future. The ministry also says that the high legal costs and complex procedures of copyright infringement cases against peer-to-peer file-sharing are issues.

Japanese copyright holders have been sending increasing numbers of requests to remove unauthorized material from video-sharing sites such as Google's YouTube, and anime is its own category in several sites — inside and outside the United States — that link to file-sharing networks such as BitTorrent. The issues in the statement of requests were discussed in the fourth Japan-U.S. Trade Forum meeting which was held on October 18 in Tokyo.

*sigh*

Point 1
Fansubs + Scanlations help promote the Anime and Manga and allow more people to get to know much more manga / anime and boosts the market demand instead.

BUT
we'd need actual statistics to prove this,

AND
if the amount of people who just read manga / watch anime online and stop buying them exceeds the number of people who buy the manga / anime as a result of getting interested after viewing them online, this argument would not stand.

And just by simple assumption this could be very much the case. I mean if a viewer sees manga/anime as cheap, disposable entertainment, why would they still spend money on them when they have an option (and the time) to view them online for free? Of course, I do assume that a lot of these people who make a difference in the actual market reside in Japan (thus making up a huge portion of the viewer-ship), since for a lot of foreign viewers, these things weren't available to them (cheaply) anyway before they became available online, thus I wouldn't think they are a big part of the market anyway? Just my assumptions though.

Point 2
Fansubs / Scanlations, giving viewers a clear idea of the quality of the product, would only push up the general standard of the products in the market.

This is... according to me, true, but beside the point of financial concerns, lol. I mean the people who make money wouldn't care about this. Wouldn't consumers be better if they're ignorant? More stupid money spent lol. If they like an author, let them buy everything by that author, despite the actual quality of the works. Of course there could be cases that are reversed.... hmm.

But then again, wouldn't scanlations let more people know of more good manga? Wouldn't the digital preservation of an anime allow more people know about more anime, and for people who couldn't find time to watch an anime aired on TV a chance to watch them too? But then again, this would bring things back to Point 1... and again, more people MIGHT purchase manga/dvds if they find something good or worth it, but how big is that number compared to those lost?

Point 3
I don't even know what I'm making these points for anymore. And I'm sleepy.

In my mind, this "piracy problem" is becoming a problem in Japan because a lot of Japanese people get access to these things thus affecting the market demand there (and the amount of profits the Japanese companies make). I don't think, if this "piracy" is limited to America, or any country but NOT JAPAN, would "hurt" them as much.

Of course, unless the overseas market is a big part of the Japanese manga/anime profit zone? Which I do not think so. Given the relatively limited amount of licensed manga/anime compared to the amount available in Japan. So I say, because these "piracy" stuff are leaking into Japan (through the net), the Japanese consumers got access to these resources through the net. And as the blame goes, because of these resources, the general profits from this industry has been decreasing, blablabla.

Blame blame blame.... It's not gonna make a difference. cus believe it or not, I wouldn't be buying the expensive graphic novels over here in North America anyway (I used to buy manga back in Hong Kong, and I still do when I went back, but their prices were REASONABLE). And surely not the anime DVDs, be it subbed or dubbed (or bootlegged, that's the worst - given the choice of an accessible original, that is), because I just don't have that friggin money.

Watch your own price levels, JAPAN.



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[info]keira23
2007-10-24 11:57 am UTC (link)
They gotta understand that people outside of Japan barely buys anything anyways... Even back then, when sharing stuff online wasn't as easy as it is now, people in the US didn't even know much about anime... and now, since things are getting licensed and such, they are at least starting to buy!

Seriously, there are tons of anime which are publicly aired for free in Japan, so why not let us see it for free as well? and for those who liked it, then they will at least be confident when purchasing!

*sighs together with saorren*

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[info]splash
2007-10-24 02:23 pm UTC (link)
Geez, their greed for moneyz... D8

At least Toei doesn't seem to be complaining directly (they haven't said a drip about my digimon subs), so I'm okay on that end at least. Well bloody hell better if I'm willing to spend half a thousand for a 48-ep series on DVD. =w=; coughcough on Japan love/hate relationship

Nice rantage :D

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[info]rukawagf
2007-10-24 02:24 pm UTC (link)
shocking. someone agrees with me. lol.

and i work as a translator for manga/manhwa company ahahahaha. and I still think scanlation helps the sales.

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[info]eveshka
2007-10-24 02:44 pm UTC (link)
Followed you over here.

I used to drop $10~$20 a pop on manga titles.... only to have most of them dropped by the production company halfway through. After a while, that chafes.

Most of what I read (UGH and Haru wo Daiteita being part of that) aren't even in print in the US that I'm aware. I'd buy more if what I read was in print.

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[info]rukawagf
2007-10-24 04:08 pm UTC (link)
no kidding. that part does annoy me to. changing of liscense and titles... and dropped titles T.T Like Black Jack gaaah. and other older series.

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[info]kmarcello
2007-10-27 07:43 pm UTC (link)
Yup, so I buy official Chinese editions. It's way faster and more reliable. Catch up, American companies! (And I can't find BL manga in bookstores!! Nanda?! >.<;;;)

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[info]n4ncy
2007-10-24 05:25 pm UTC (link)
They're touching youtube but not Nico Nico? *laugh*
And if they think people from a small money currency like Indonesia can buy their original stuffs.. They're talking in dream... @_@

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[info]picaaa
2007-10-24 07:43 pm UTC (link)
lol
I think if they do that, everyone's gonna move to Nico Nico or some other YT site~
then they'll have a big problem =w=;;

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[info]kmarcello
2007-10-27 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Hm... What's this Nico Nico...? Sounds like something I should check out... ^O^

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[info]dark_alone
2007-10-24 11:06 pm UTC (link)
Speaking as a person who is in the process of buying 2 series' (was 3, but that damned Geneon... *shakes fist*) and will be started to get another in December, the idea of buying these titles would never have crossed my mind if it had not been for fansubs. I would not have heard of AIR TV or the movie. So the me that is in the process of buying that series, wouldn't exist now. <-- hope that made some kind of sense.

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[info]kmarcello
2007-10-27 07:37 pm UTC (link)
I agree with you.

If everything is cheap and accessible in a timely fashion as if we're in Japan, then sure. I feel they're talking about the money they wouldn't have earned anyway. If the anime is shown on TV, we customers don't really pay them directly. If the anime never made it to the US, what and who are they selling to? Can dubbed anime really draw in any anime fans?! American anime/manga industry need to move faster and keep up. Otherwise, the world is turning 100 times faster than their slow pace. By the time we get to see it in the US, it's like years late. At this day and age, who can wait that long? if there's demand, there'll be supplies. Want the money? Keep up withe the demand please!

Japan has to make their market more accessible to the world, too. More people will buy directly from Japan if it's reasonable and easy to do. HMV.jp owns my bank account. Gees! Yup, subbing groups definitely helped spreading the love. Alas~~~

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